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Lucy Powell, you've just won the deputy uh
Lucy
Powell
you've
just
won
the
deputy
uh
leadership race. Now, you campaigned on
leadership
race
Now
you
campaigned
on
being the voice of the party. This is a
being
the
voice
of
the
party
This
is
a
reflection, isn't it, that the party
reflection
isn't
it
that
the
party
feel disillusioned with the Labour.
feel
disillusioned
with
the
Labour
leadership and they want a strong voice
leadership
and
they
want
a
strong
voice
around the table. It's a reflection of
around
the
table
It's
a
reflection
of
these divisions, isn't it?
these
divisions
isn't
it
>> No, we we're going to bring the party
>>
No
we
we're
going
to
bring
the
party
together and we're bringing the party
together
and
we're
bringing
the
party
together. We've got really good members
together
We've
got
really
good
members
right around the country and elected
right
around
the
country
and
elected
representatives who are delivering Labour
representatives
who
are
delivering
Labour
values on the ground and I've run a
values
on
the
ground
and
I've
run
a
campaign to make sure that we get their
campaign
to
make
sure
that
we
get
their
voices right at the top of the party
voices
right
at
the
top
of
the
party
that we're listening we're hearing
that
we're
listening
we're
hearing
because that is our strength that will
because
that
is
our
strength
that
will
make us make better decisions, have
make
us
make
better
decisions
have
better uh politics and be able to pull
better
uh
politics
and
be
able
to
pull
together that much stronger story about
together
that
much
stronger
story
about
how we are really fixing the problems a
how
we
are
really
fixing
the
problems
a
country faces.
country
faces
>> You are have just been elected deputy
>>
You
are
have
just
been
elected
deputy
leader. you I think your pitch was kind
leader
you
I
think
your
pitch
was
kind
of I'm going to be the campaigner and
of
I'm
going
to
be
the
campaigner
and
chief like taking uh the fight to reform
chief
like
taking
uh
the
fight
to
reform
and also campaigning into those May
and
also
campaigning
into
those
May
local elections. Your heart must have
local
elections
Your
heart
must
have
sank, didn't it, when you saw that
sank
didn't
it
when
you
saw
that
Cardiff result. I mean it was shockingly
Cardiff
result
I
mean
it
was
shockingly
bad for Labour. Shockingly bad.
bad
for
Labour
Shockingly
bad
>> It was a really bad result for us and
>>
It
was
a
really
bad
result
for
us
and
you we absolutely have to listen and
you
we
absolutely
have
to
listen
and
learn and take that uh on board. And
learn
and
take
that
uh
on
board
And
look, what I've been saying throughout
look
what
I've
been
saying
throughout
my campaign to be deputy leader is that
my
campaign
to
be
deputy
leader
is
that
we've got to be the leaders of
we've
got
to
be
the
leaders
of
rebuilding that progressive alliance
rebuilding
that
progressive
alliance
against the forces of division uh in
against
the
forces
of
division
uh
in
this country. And I think that result
this
country
And
I
think
that
result
showed us that that alliance is there.
showed
us
that
that
alliance
is
there
We need to be the leaders of it and
We
need
to
be
the
leaders
of
it
and
trying to outreform reform is not going
trying
to
outreform
reform
is
not
going
to work for us. And I'm going to set
to
work
for
us
And
I'm
going
to
set
about today and every day making sure
about
today
and
every
day
making
sure
that we are speaking for those broader
that
we
are
speaking
for
those
broader
voices for that patriotic uh progressive
voices
for
that
patriotic
uh
progressive
alliance in this country uh that wants
alliance
in
this
country
uh
that
wants
to see our politics succeed and the
to
see
our
politics
succeed
and
the
politics of hate uh fail.
politics
of
hate
uh
fail
>> If Labour loses control of the Senate in
>>
If
Labour
loses
control
of
the
Senate
in
May next year, you've held it since it
May
next
year
you've
held
it
since
it
was begun in 1999.
was
begun
in
1999
Um the PM is under real pressure. I
Um
the
PM
is
under
real
pressure
I
mean, his job's up for question, isn't
mean
his
job's
up
for
question
isn't
it? If if you do really badly next May,
it
If
if
you
do
really
badly
next
May
>> I am not writing off a single seat for
>>
I
am
not
writing
off
a
single
seat
for
next May. I'm here today. We've got
next
May
I'm
here
today
We've
got
great London counselors and candidates
great
London
counselors
and
candidates
standing here in big elections in London
standing
here
in
big
elections
in
London
as well, in the Senate, uh, in uh, MSPs
as
well
in
the
Senate
uh
in
uh
MSPs
up in Scotland and right around the
up
in
Scotland
and
right
around
the
country. We've got other people standing
country
We've
got
other
people
standing
in May. I'm not going to write off a
in
May
I'm
not
going
to
write
off
a
single one of those as some kind of
single
one
of
those
as
some
kind
of
temperature check on the national uh,
temperature
check
on
the
national
uh
mood. These are good leadership
mood
These
are
good
leadership
>> or anything or anything anything else.
>>
or
anything
or
anything
anything
else
You know, these are really good Labor
You
know
these
are
really
good
Labor
people out doing a good job around the
people
out
doing
a
good
job
around
the
country and I'm going to set to work to
country
and
I'm
going
to
set
to
work
to
make sure that we turn that around.
make
sure
that
we
turn
that
around
>> See, it's a temperature test on K Star,
>>
See
it's
a
temperature
test
on
K
Star
isn't it?
isn't
it
>> I I I'm not judging those elections by
>>
I
I
I'm
not
judging
those
elections
by
that. I'm going to make sure that we
that
I'm
going
to
make
sure
that
we
reelect our thousands of councilors
reelect
our
thousands
of
councilors
we've got standing, Senate members,
we've
got
standing
Senate
members
MSPs. I want to see Labour succeeding
MSPs
I
want
to
see
Labour
succeeding
and we've got time to turn this around
and
we've
got
time
to
turn
this
around
and I'm going to help to do that.
and
I'm
going
to
help
to
do
that
>> So, you think you can turn it around? Uh
>>
So
you
think
you
can
turn
it
around
Uh
we've we've got to we've absolutely got
we've
we've
got
to
we've
absolutely
got
to because the country needs us to. It's
to
because
the
country
needs
us
to
It's
not about us and our fortunes. It's
not
about
us
and
our
fortunes
It's
about the future of this country and
about
the
future
of
this
country
and
we've got to get our act together and
we've
got
to
get
our
act
together
and
that's what people elected me to help
that's
what
people
elected
me
to
help
get right.
get
right
>> And and Kier Star, um what's going to be
>>
And
and
Kier
Star
um
what's
going
to
be
your relationship with him? Are you a
your
relationship
with
him
Are
you
a
critical friend? Are you a supportive
critical
friend
Are
you
a
supportive
friend? Are you a friendmy? Are you an
friend
Are
you
a
friendmy
Are
you
an
enemy? What are you with him?
enemy
What
are
you
with
him
>> I'm a I'm his deputy.
>>
I'm
a
I'm
his
deputy
>> Are you his critical friend?
>>
Are
you
his
critical
friend
>> I'm his deputy. I'm the party's deputy.
>>
I'm
his
deputy
I'm
the
party's
deputy
I'm his friend. uh you know, a
I'm
his
friend
uh
you
know
a
colleague. We've known each other for a
colleague
We've
known
each
other
for
a
long time and I'm really confident that
long
time
and
I'm
really
confident
that
we can uh work well together. He he
we
can
uh
work
well
together
He
he
respects this job. He respects me. He
respects
this
job
He
respects
me
He
respects what I bring to the table and I
respects
what
I
bring
to
the
table
and
I
respect him and value him and I'm sure
respect
him
and
value
him
and
I'm
sure
we'll work well as a team.
we'll
work
well
as
a
team
>> You've just had a formal meeting with
>>
You've
just
had
a
formal
meeting
with
the prime minister, your first formal
the
prime
minister
your
first
formal
meeting as him as the leader of the
meeting
as
him
as
the
leader
of
the
Labour party and you as his deputy. He
Labour
party
and
you
as
his
deputy
He
let you go from his cabinet just a
let
you
go
from
his
cabinet
just
a
matter of weeks ago. How awkward was the
matter
of
weeks
ago
How
awkward
was
the
conversation just now? Do you think he
conversation
just
now
Do
you
think
he
regrets sacking you? Did he apologize?
regrets
sacking
you
Did
he
apologize
And have you kind of made peace with
And
have
you
kind
of
made
peace
with
him?
him
>> Well, it was a private conversation, a
>>
Well
it
was
a
private
conversation
a
private meeting. I'm certainly not going
private
meeting
I'm
certainly
not
going
to be giving a running commentary on my
to
be
giving
a
running
commentary
on
my
relationship with Keir, but rest assured,
relationship
with
Keir
but
rest
assured
Beth, you know, we had a very positive
Beth
you
know
we
had
a
very
positive
uh conversation about all the things
uh
conversation
about
all
the
things
that we're going to work together to do.
that
we're
going
to
work
together
to
do
And we've got a big job to do because we
And
we've
got
a
big
job
to
do
because
we
are in the fight of our lives as a
are
in
the
fight
of
our
lives
as
a
party, as the future of our democracy.
party
as
the
future
of
our
democracy
and he is determined that he that we
and
he
is
determined
that
he
that
we
will both work well together uh to see
will
both
work
well
together
uh
to
see
off that threat.
off
that
threat
>> Final question, what is the first thing
>>
Final
question
what
is
the
first
thing
that you are going to do as deputy
that
you
are
going
to
do
as
deputy
leader to show the party that you will
leader
to
show
the
party
that
you
will
be their voice around the top of
be
their
voice
around
the
top
of
government and the cabinet table? Is it
government
and
the
cabinet
table
Is
it
the two child benefit?
the
two
child
benefit
>> They will see me do that every day. I'm
>>
They
will
see
me
do
that
every
day
I'm
out here today campaigning, knock
out
here
today
campaigning
knock
knocking on doors. I'm not here I'm not
knocking
on
doors
I'm
not
here
I'm
not
here to I'm not here to write an
here
to
I'm
not
here
to
write
an
alternative policy platform. And what I
alternative
policy
platform
And
what
I
am here to do is make sure that our
am
here
to
do
is
make
sure
that
our
Labour values, our Labour beliefs are
Labour
values
our
Labour
beliefs
are
right at the heart of the conversation
right
at
the
heart
of
the
conversation
and that we're giving a really clear
and
that
we're
giving
a
really
clear
sense of who we're for, what's and whose
sense
of
who
we're
for
what's
and
whose
side we're on. And that's what I'm
side
we're
on
And
that's
what
I'm
determined to do.
determined
to
do
>> So you are not going to be the politics
>>
So
you
are
not
going
to
be
the
politics
of division. You will be
of
division
You
will
be
>> absolutely I am you. Unity comes from
>>
absolutely
I
am
you
Unity
comes
from
collective purpose and having developing
collective
purpose
and
having
developing
that together and I'm really clear about
that
together
and
I'm
really
clear
about
that and I'm going to help to do that.
that
and
I'm
going
to
help
to
do
that
>> Okay, Lucy Pal, thank you so much for
>>
Okay
Lucy
Pal
thank
you
so
much
for
your time. Thank you. I kick.
your
time
Thank
you
I
kick
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